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Bird Flu?
Posted June 11, 2007 at 02:32:18 PM by Bean
I've heard of it, but never really researched it much. Today, when I heard a government-sponsored commercial on the radio for, I decided to check it out.

So far, a few bits of information have concerned me:

"The need for vaccine is likely to outstrip supply and the supply of antiviral drugs is also likely to be inadequate early in a pandemic. Difficult decisions will need to be made regarding who gets antiviral drugs and vaccines." (link)


"The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), through its National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), is addressing the problem in a number of ways. These include: The development of pre-pandemic vaccines based on current lethal strains of H5N1 (The Food and Drug Administration has approved a vaccine based on an early strain of the H5N1 virus that is not commercially available, but is being added to the Strategic National Stockpile.)" (link)

And this: Indiana Posters

Thoughts? General discussion?
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bigD (June 12, 2007 at 05:56:45 AM):

In related news, when we were cleaning out the garage as part of our 'lean' event yesterday somebody found a dead bird on a shelf. The 'lean' coordinator for our group listed it as a 'safety item'. I think one of our goals for the week was to eliminate 3 safety items, so I'm sure this will count. This will probably be reflected by reporting an imaginary gain in productivity related to the elimination of a safety item.
red2 (June 12, 2007 at 06:05:26 AM):
i know quite a bit about the pan flu - i'm on the college's health emergency committee.

first let me clarify...pandemic flu will not necessarily be the h5n1 virus. however at this time it's most likely that it will be h5n1 because it exhibits 2 of the 3 traits of a pandemic virus (it is not easily transmitted from humans to humans). but i've also heard that it won't be h5n1. so you can see the dilemma with creating a vaccine.

if you have more specific questions, let me know and i'll do the best to answer them.
celeb (June 12, 2007 at 07:28:30 AM):
that's why you stockpile food at your house and have some drinking water on hand, so you can go a week or two without having to leave if necessary.
celeb (June 12, 2007 at 07:29:00 AM):
me, I'm going to the BBQ. Doubtful the flu virus will make its way out there.
Mary Ann (June 12, 2007 at 08:09:36 AM):
Everyone should be stockpiling a minimum of 90-days of prescription medicines, food, supplies, and WATER.

Yes, minimum of 90 gallons of water per person!

When the Pandemic Flu comes we may be force to SIP (Shelter-In-Place) for 90 days.

The Pandemic Flu is dangerous because we won't have any antibodies which will cause many of us to become very ill, really fast. When so many are sick at the same time this will interrupt our food supply chains. Many are expected to die from the flu.

The flu is no laughing matter.
The flu will be highly contagious.
Prepare now so you are not sick at home without medical support.
Brad (June 12, 2007 at 08:45:53 AM):
I think it is a good idea to have food and water on hand but....

You have to regulate how much stuff like this affects your daily life. If the flu doesn't get us, Iran will. If Iran doesn't get us, peak oil will. If Peak oil doesn't get us, The dying bees will surely disrupt our food chain.

I choose to say F*** it and keep right on eating strawberry poptarts. Know what i'm saying? Didn't think so.
bean (June 12, 2007 at 09:00:39 AM):
celeb - no birds at BBQ?
red2 (June 12, 2007 at 09:14:36 AM):
out of everything i've heard, i've heard nothing of this sip for 90 days. there has been talk about closing down public school systems, canceling large gatherings (football games, basketball games, etc.), we've even discussed when we should close the college.
bean (June 12, 2007 at 10:53:28 AM):
Once it starts, I imagine most things will "close down" either due to planned closings or a shit ton of peeps refusing to come to work.

Never heard 90 days myself, but I have heard that flu waves are 4-8 weeks long... so 60 days seems safe.
John (June 12, 2007 at 11:42:51 AM):
I hear ya Brad... I'm curious, if everone stored 90 gallon drums of water per person in the household. Would we have a large shortage of fresh water? Perhaps this would cause massive drought causing a chain reaction to a shortage of food. And then we all starve. Death by overreaction.
bigD (June 12, 2007 at 02:04:32 PM):
bbq should be safe, but only because we'll be shooting anyone coming up teh drive. sorry celeb

I've got 90 days worth of drinking water, no problem. 90 days of food, maybe. 90 days of prescription medicine, easy, none.

I only have 2 weeks of leave from work though, so I'm effed.

bean (June 12, 2007 at 02:49:11 PM):
Yeah - neighborhoods are not where you wanna be when the BIRD FLU ALERT LEVEL RED is issued. Note to self: sneak behind BBQ perimeter while dooley is shooting seleb.
corbin (June 13, 2007 at 06:48:43 AM):
I've seen "The Stand". I'm heading to Boulder, CO when the flu hits...or maybe Vegas, haven't decided which side I'm on. M O O N, that spells FluJ'd!
Stef (June 13, 2007 at 07:45:47 AM):
I'm with gotta live every week like it's Shark Week!
bigD (June 13, 2007 at 10:29:14 AM):
damn stank bbq is going to be a busy mofo when teh birdflu hits. I hope it corresponds to strawbenfetz, so I'll already be expecting all the company.
corbin (June 14, 2007 at 06:04:36 AM):
speaking of not having enough leave, i worked with a chick from Dahlgren, VA that had just started there right before a hurricane hit. she didn't have any leave built up, so she went to work every day the week of the hurricane.
bean (June 14, 2007 at 05:20:27 PM):
So - what's the consensus view on bird flu? Ignore? Prepare? Poke fun?
bigD (June 15, 2007 at 08:02:13 AM):
Ignore and poke fun.
Edna Mode (July 19, 2007 at 06:33:43 PM):
Ignore and poke fun at your own risk. If you really want to educate yourself with some straight talk, try this Web site:

It has a specific geographic bent, but 99% of the info on the site applies no matter where you are located.
bean (July 19, 2007 at 09:24:36 PM):
BBQ just got severjd
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